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Post by HCM Brain Candy on Apr 3, 2005 20:59:41 GMT -6
Hehehe...
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Post by zoel on Apr 5, 2005 20:25:07 GMT -6
Someday I will be Holy Roman Emporor, does that technically make me a monarch?
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Post by HCM Brain Candy on Apr 5, 2005 21:10:49 GMT -6
How will you get to be Holy Roman Emperor?
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Post by zoel on Apr 11, 2005 19:26:24 GMT -6
The easiest way is usually just to conquer Rome and demand that the pope coronate you Holy Roman Emporor... or else.
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Post by Turin on Apr 11, 2005 20:46:40 GMT -6
Nope. I'm going to beat you to that one. I'm going to become pope, and then denouce god, efficiently killing catholicism. ;D
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Post by zoel on Apr 11, 2005 21:04:31 GMT -6
First you have to coronate me Holy Roman Emporor, then you can do whatever you want with the Catholic Church.
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Post by The Radical Communist on Apr 21, 2005 13:32:19 GMT -6
Oh! Then I can play Napoleon and destroy the new Holy Roman Empire! (And of course not invade Russia...)
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Post by Wouldnt you like to know on Apr 22, 2005 13:36:03 GMT -6
I was a happy man that the new pope is of Germany. As well, no of ya'll(that is what my "pen pal" from america says "Ihr" translates to") will be Holy Roman Emperor (or Napoleon). Don't exist any longer. I am sorry that mine translations are not much good; I am translating right from mine Woerterbuch. I am in the enjoyment of learning of saying English better. Danke schoen!
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Post by zoel on Apr 23, 2005 17:14:28 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure we've been over this before, JerOD. The pope is not the antichrist.
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Post by HCM Brain Candy on Apr 23, 2005 20:01:29 GMT -6
All shall fall to the Andrewian Empire!
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Post by theoogliemonkey on Apr 24, 2005 10:05:43 GMT -6
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Post by zoel on Apr 26, 2005 18:27:28 GMT -6
Which will proceed to destroy itself by simultaniously stubbing the toe of every Andrew in existance.
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Post by JerOD on Apr 30, 2005 9:44:48 GMT -6
The Papacy is the Antichrist!!!!
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Post by HCM Brain Candy on Apr 30, 2005 21:29:50 GMT -6
Nope.
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Post by zoel on May 3, 2005 18:45:30 GMT -6
NO IT ISN'T.
Get the facts first, afterwards you can distort them as much as you like --I don't remeber who, but they were right.
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Post by theoogliemonkey on May 3, 2005 19:41:25 GMT -6
I don't get it. Either
A, he isn't the antichrist, in which case you've falsely accused an innocent man, or...
B, he is. Good for you. Shut up and let him do his thing so you can have your second war with hell and the rapture and all that mythical shit. The sooner you shut up and let him do what he's going to do if he is, the sooner the holy can be saved etc. etc.
Either way, you should just shut up. Unless of course, as I presume, your intentions are much more malovelent. You wish to inflame the people here, and get them angry to attack you and fight back against your idiocy. Then by all means, feel free to continue. Idiot.
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Post by JerOD on May 5, 2005 10:02:12 GMT -6
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Post by theoogliemonkey on May 6, 2005 17:11:57 GMT -6
You're totally and completely right JerOD. Forgive me for ever doubting.
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Post by JerOD on May 7, 2005 10:59:43 GMT -6
I forgive you.
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Post by HCM Brain Candy on May 7, 2005 12:17:50 GMT -6
He was being sarcastic JerOD... And why in the name of the PIE OF DOOM are you listening to random internet ramblings? (Remember the site about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide [aka water] ?)
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Post by theoogliemonkey on May 8, 2005 16:09:07 GMT -6
Oops. Sorry, I can't take it anymore. In a few days or hours I'll change my mind, but right now I'm too tired of listening to JerOD. Fuckit, I'm gone.
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Post by newyorkpattie on May 8, 2005 17:34:59 GMT -6
gaaahhh....he ruined M------debate and now he's slowly trying to kill weluvducsoha
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Post by zoel on May 10, 2005 20:06:39 GMT -6
Randomly: The papacy is not the antichrist because... 1)the antichrist is a person, the papacy is a... building? organization? 2)the antichrist will set himself up in Jerusalem, the papacy is rather firmly established in Rome 3)the antichrist will rule the world for the final seven years before Jesus' second coming, the papacy has been around for several hundred years 4)the antichrist will deny the name of Christ, the papacy has at best watered it down 5)the antichrist will require everyone to recieve the mark of the beast or they won't be able to buy or sell, the papacy has never been quite that sophisticated 6)the antichrist will recieve a fatal would and recover from it amazing all of the world, the papacy... I'm not even going to bother 7)the antichrist will rule the entire world, the papacy has never gotten much further than Western Europe 8)etc.
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Post by The Radical Communist on May 10, 2005 20:43:20 GMT -6
9) Whatever source said the papacy was the antichrist was probably an idiot. 10) I'm always right, so since you disagree with me you are wrong. 11) Lots of people hate Catholithism, so that probably explains the source. 12) The idea of predicting prophecy before it is shaky at best, and just plain silly the rest of the time.
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Post by theoogliemonkey on May 11, 2005 20:23:35 GMT -6
13) you're just an asshole who says that to be a contrary little shit.
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Post by The Radical Communist on May 18, 2005 6:31:39 GMT -6
pi) the toast is radioactive and much too soggy.
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Post by zoel on May 20, 2005 20:08:45 GMT -6
42+9i)Johnny's still the MOHC.
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Post by JerOD on May 21, 2005 15:55:35 GMT -6
In order to fully explain my reasoning (and other people's reasonings) for the pope being the Antichrist let me point out some facts that are written in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.
1) The falling away from the truth of salvation would be accompanied by the revalation of the Antichrist, the man of sin. Before the Reformation, the pope was selling indulgences. This isn't right. Dr. Martin Luther was able to point this out using Scripture. Pope Boniface VIII had said that it was necessary for humans to be subject to the Roman pontiff for salvation in heaven.
2) The passage mentioned above states that the man of sin will set himself up in "God's temple." The apostle Paul used the phrase "God's temple" to describe believers (1 Corinthians 3:16, 2 Corinthians 6:16). Even Peter used the phrase "God's temple" in this same manner (1 Peter 2:5).
3) The passage also said that the secret work of the lawless one was at work in Paul's time. He also said that it would last until judgement. The time was aproximately 500 years ago when the Antichrist was revealed. It is no longer a secret. The Antichrist has to be a succession of persons since it lasts longer than one person's life.
4) If the Antichrist will rule for seven years before Jesus' coming then that contradicts his statement about the end of time where he says that the hour and day are unknown when the end of time will come.
5) The Council of Trent has not been repealed. It stated what Pope Boniface VIII said.
6)"the antichrist will recieve a fatal wound and recover from it amazing all of the world, the papacy (doesn't?)" This "wound" was the revealing of him as the Antichrist. The lure of the pope is increasing today.
7) "Lots of people hate Catholithism, so that probably explains the source." No, not really.
8) "The idea of predicting prophecy before it is shaky at best, and just plain silly the rest of the time." I'm not sure what this means.
9) "you're just an asshole who says that to be a contrary little shit." Contrary to what? False teachings? if so, then cool!
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Post by zoel on May 21, 2005 18:08:51 GMT -6
Let's do a linebyline
1) So Pope Boniface was the man of lawlessness? In that case you would be arguing that the end of the world has already occured because Paul makes clear the appearance of the man of lawlessness signals the second coming of Christ. Paul warns us, however "we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come." In other words, we are not to jump to conclusions and imagine that the end of the world has already passed us. When the world ends and Jesus Christ returns his return will be obvious as stated in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 "For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."
That should be enough for now, when you can explain to me why you keep insisting that the world already ended, we'll talk about your other points.
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Post by HCM Brain Candy on May 22, 2005 20:13:07 GMT -6
Yeah...
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