Zoel for President!

[The Admin]

I hereby declare that I am going to run for the office of the presidency in the United States of the Penguin Republic. I furthermore, declare it a democratic republic, and encourage anybody who is opposed to the idea not to vote. If the non-votes outnumber the votes.... well then we'll keep it as a constitutional monarchy.
I furhtermore declare that everybody must vote for me. Anybody found not voting for me will be beaten with a wet noodle until utterly unconcious and then doused with water.

[HCMBrainCandy]

No.

[MOHC TheGirl]

Zoel, I think you are defeating your own purposes. But that may be the point you are trying to make...hmm...

[beanababe]

Zoel in order to run for President don't you have to be 18? Unless you happen to make Bush disappear and take over and change the laws.

I would vote for you.

Do you have a slogan yet? If not you need one.

[HCMBrainCandy]

No, no, no...
You can't do it that way...
You needkiller robot armies and giant space armadas and gargantuan Death Stars and the like.

[The Admin]

Umm... yes, I suppose that is a but undemocratic, but hey they still have a choice, don't they?

Giant robot armies are good for nothing! Only the power of Cl-v-l-nd will conquer the world...

Oh, that and nuclear war.

[MOHC TheGirl]

Zoel, I don't know about this whole presidential business.

[The Admin]

Being president is a good thing!

I can pardon myself for all the bad things I do, just like Bill Clinton!

[MOHC TheGirl]

Would you be willing to pardon me from all the bad things I do, that will end me up in jail at some point?

[The Admin]

No, I will not pardon you for blowing up abortion clinics in the name of peace and happiness!

[HCMBrainCandy]

I feel like venting...
I Hate all this stuff about tolorance and such. It's getting out of hand. I mean, it's to the point where you can't say that your postion is right and your opponant(s) is wrong. Society would have us believe that both parties are right, and the answer is a quasie-thing where both interpretations are correct.
As a Christian, I do accept the right of other people to have their own opinions, and they are ultimatly responsible for making them.
However, acceptable in that regard is not the same thing as correctness.
It's like 2 wandering men coming across a pen. One says it's blue, one says it's orange. Now, the pen may be blue, it may be orange, or it may be neither and both men may be wrong.
It does not mean, however that the pen is freaking both blue and orange at the same time!!!! The pen is not in a quasie existance where it is both!!!!!
It is one or the other, or neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The spirit of comprimise is a good thing, but it can be taken too far.

[The Admin]

Was that where the original 'this pen is blue' argument came from? I don't remember. I think it was either that, or something about the failure of preception, insomuch as we were unable to truely know if it was a blue pen, therefore anything no matter how absurd was probably true.

But this should be an entirly new thread under the philosophy forum... not in the thread where I campaign for votes.

[The radical communist]

Sorry not having responded in a long while you jackassess have continued with your rantings. Im back!!
Oh, and brain candy. You still never responded to my fact that nucleur power is shit. Does this mean you concede?
Anyways, the rest of you shity assholes can count on me being back soon!

[The Admin]

So you'd vote me for president! ;D

[HCMBrainCandy]

Oh, this by NO means means that I concede. Thanks for the reminder though. I might never have gotten around to it and people couldn't be informed about this important information.
Now, I think I've covered the thing about nuclear waste. It's on the board we were using when you first graced us with your presence. Look it up under one of the environment threads, as I don't doubt that you've forgotten reading.
Okay, what then did I leave off on? Ah, yes, why nuclear power is better than other forms of power. There are 3 basic sources today, fossil fuels, new "clean" power sources, and nuclear power.
Let's look at how these sources of power compare. I already addressed waste, now let's move on to other things. First, the potential for nuclear power plants to explode. Now I know this will be way above your head, Radical Communist, but let's compare nuclear bombs and power plants. In order to undergo a uncontrolled nuclear reaction and achieve an full nuclear explosion, the uranium (or plutonium) must be at a critical mass, and the uranium (or plutonuim) has to be a ceratian isotope, in Uranium's case U-235, that splits and gives off 2 neutrons to split other atoms of Uranium. In bombs' cases, the U-235 content is around 90% of the total uranium. In a power plant, where it's only nessacary to start a chain reaction, the U-235 content is around 3%...
90%... 3%... I think we are a bit too short.
Now, your small mind may ask, what about well known accidents such as Three Mile Island and Chernobyl. Those most certainly prove that nuclear power is unsafe. Let's look at Three Mile Island, first of all.
Simply put, the plant had over 5 seperate safety measures (how much do you think fossil fuel facilities have?) And, when all was said and done, the safeties held. The total amount of radiation that was expelled into the atmosphere was the equivalant of keeping your face in front of a TV for an hour. Three Mile Island, history's only "major diasaster" with a toll of zero dead, zero diesesed, and zero injured.
Ah, you may say, but in Chernobyl people died and the fallout will and has killed millions!! Okay, first know that the reactor in Chernobyl was a Soviet reactor, and the Soviets in general were known for being bogged down in burocracy and all around being incompotent fools. Do you know of those huge domes that you see over all Western reactors? Those are containment domes. They are a last resort if a reactor blows. The Soviets were stupid and didn't build one. They also had a radically different cooling system than Western reactors do. Ours is water based, and if for some reason the primary, secondary and tertiary water cooling systems break down, the reactor will automatically slow down and ultimatly stop fissioning. The Soviet version was graphite based, and the oppostite would occur. If the cooling systems broke down, then the rate of fission in the reactor would speed up! Then there is the issue of the operators to consider. This goes back to the issue of the Soviet's stupidity. They often undertrained their operators and didn't devote enough resources. They ran the reactors at almost over maximum capacity everyday to make up for the fact that they... why wouldn't you know, didn't plan ahead and have enough power coverage in the area . They were running the plant at so high a rate that it got unstable. After a long list of things that is over your head, and doing some really stupid things, the reactor #4 blew. And, they didn't have that handy containment dome I mentioned earlier. And a lot of other handy things. So, the reactor blew and people died. The exact number I don't remember, but it was between 15-20.
Now you may point to this like the cock you are and say that this proves that nuclear power is horrible and should be banned forever. Okay, along with other accidents, nuclear power has killed about 30 people, worldwide. I ask you this, how many people has fossil fuels killed? And where are these "new, clean, efficient" power sources they've been bellowing about for decades?
I'm tired of typing this for now, but I'll add some more stuff later. Any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. ;D

[Swanson]

hmm, did you reach the ten thousand charactteer limit?

[Swanson]

hmm, did you reach the ten thousand charactteer limit? Yes, b.c. as painfull as it is to agree, i must, the pen is blue, orange or another color, say what you want, but it doesn't make you right. As for the tolerance thing, i can't even say that queers disgust me, because that would be mean, even if they do! Yet us not forget the fact though that since they are queers and by definition wierd and unatural, they can say what ever they want. if i say i hate queers, i have the cops and school force feeding me this tolerance bullnuts, yet if one of the ass-packers says 'I hate any non-gay people" No one could care less! IN fact, they'd probably have the whole f**king community trying to serve and appease them! Tolerance is needed in that It would not be justified for me to take any actions against a queer, or vise versa, but it should be acceptable to state your f**king opion without having to worry about every one freaking out at you! Oh, and one more thing, as a side note, this whole "African Americans"(whose familys and relatives havn't seen the f**king continent in a century and are no more from africa then the japanese) can call each other black person, and if i can't even utter the word, why, because i am white, and THEY are intolerant. We see tolerace shifting from protection to domination. Yes, racial slander is unpreductive, but why the f**k can they say it and I cant! Why, because they have become the ones who are intolerant. I say we put the whole f**king color issue aside, none of this whole, "i need special privelages because I'm black, or red, or have slanty eyes, or can only speak mexican"!!!!


ps, look at this sh it, i cant even say niger, it turns it into "black person"! the fuking computer is in on it too!!!!!

[The Admin]

I didn't know that...
Technically I am in charge of all those word edits and stuff, but I've never looked into it

[HCMBrainCandy]

Um, Swanson...
Who ever said I was talking about those examples you gave?

[Swanson]

no one b.c. no one did. I took your point farther, does that frighten you? Do you disagree?

[Swanson]

oh, and Zoel, youve taken the freedom of speach and, yeah, you wiped your ass with it!!! Why do I have to play these games with my own fucing words?

[The Admin]

For various reasons, not the least of which being the preservation of civil society.

[HCMBrainCandy]

Swanson, don't even go to taking points even farther. Keep that up, and you'll get messed up.

[ionix]

Swanson, even the Tripod membership people say no profanity...
Anyway, doesn't the radical communist sound a little too much like Swanson? Just a thought.

[HCMBrainCandy]

No, the Radical Communist has really bad grammer. Even Swanson's grammer isn't that bad...

[Swanson]

A few sacrifices must be made to preserve "civil society"(which is an oxymoron), to deny me the right to express my self is nothing short of tyranny. You piss on the blood of patriots when you restrict one of the most dearly held rights of the people of the united states of america. You are a disgrace to freedom.

Oh, yes, and the taking points to far, I showed my opinion, I will not retract it, say what you want, if i am racialy slanderous, then so be it, I don't claim anyone is better than others because of color or race, but to ignore the fact that the general culture of individuals often banded together for such petty reasons are flawed and an insult to humanity. The kkk is one example of this, along with al queda and the crypts(spelling is wrong though). You b.c. do not understand. You remain ignorant to so much. I will not retract my statements because of their validity. It will not be done by my hand. Oh, and please do explain what you mean by, "keep doing that, and you'll get messed up", because, i have interpereted it, and i sincerly hope for what companion ship we have, that it was only a misconseption.

Finally, the whole don't i sound like the rad. com., I don't think i do, but perhaps you were trying to say that I sound communist, if this was the point, then countinue reading. to try and insult me with a title of communist, you will fail. Communism is above the peoples of this earth, and this is why it has failed, but to deny that the essential ideals of communism are valid and great, is to ignore logic. Many people used communism to become a tyrrant. I have come to understand, it is not the economy, or type of government that allows tyrrants, but the apathy of the peoples, when our leaders no longer fear just retribution and revolution, we have failed. When ever a tyrrant takes an action against the people, it is the people who have allowed this to happen, in almost all cases. Apathy is the antithsis of democracy and just rule. Oh, and, if you think i'm a pycho at this point, remember all of the countries that have socialist practices, like, *gasp* social health care! Even us...

[ionix]

Even though Capitalism and Democracy sucks, at least it's not Communism... take the lesser of the two evils.

[The Admin]

I think the question was "does profanity fall under the protection of freedom of speech?"

Well...
Hate speech doesn't,
Sedition doesn't,
Liable doesn't,
...at least according to the supreme court.

[MOHC TheGirl]

Silly boys, you will never learn anything about everything....

[Swanson]

Fine, then, I can't say "nigger", that's fine with me, but you had better stop sensoring profanity, because that wasn't in there...Just because the supreme court decided this, doesn't mean it is so. If that were the case then you'd never see the courts go back on what they said many years before. Yet, if you wan't to argue with the current laws, that's fine, but stop censoring my profanity!!!